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@@ -34,6 +34,10 @@ By doing this, Apprise is able to automatically to detect _your_ **{chat_id}** f
 When using the short form of the Telegram/Apprise URL and the bot owner (probably you) is successfully detected, the **{chat_id}** it detected will appear in the logs after the notification is sent.  Ideally you should take this and update your Apprise URL to explicitly reference this in the future.
 * **tgram**://**{bot_token}**/**{chat_id}**
 
+**Note**: you can also just go ahead and acquire the **{chat_id}** yourself after first messaging yourself as per the instructions above.  Afterwards, you just need to visit `https://api.telegram.org/bot{bot_token}/getUpdates`.
+ *  *Note:* the keyword `bot` must sit in-front of the actual **{bot_token}** that you were given by the BotFather. 
+ * The result will contain the message you sent; in addition to this there is a section entitled `chat` with the `id` identified here. This is the **{chat_id}** you can use to directly message using Apprise.
+
 ### Syntax
 The following syntax is valid:
 * **tgram**://**{bot_token}**/