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teastep 4f4df4905c This update: 
a) Corrected the URL for the mailing list subscribe/unsubscribe/change at
   Sourceforge. Although the old URLs worked, they were not the ones
   published by Sourceforge.

b) Removed the Unsubscribe link for Shorewall-Newbies. I have shut down
   Mailman on my server so that URL is no longer available.


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<h1>Shorewall Mailing Lists</h1>
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Tom Eastep</span><br>
<br>
Copyright © 2001-2005 Thomas M. Eastep<br>
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<p class="pubdate">2005-07-08<br>
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<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
<h2>See the <a target="_top" href="http://shorewall.net/">Shorewall
Website</a> for
Shorewall information and documentation.</h2>
<h2>Table of Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="#Moderated">Mailing lists are Closed to Non-members</a></li>
<li>Guidelines<br>
</li>
<ul>
<li><a href="#Plain">Please post in plain text</a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><a href="#Hijacking">Please don't hijack another poster's thread</a></li>
</ul>
<li><a href="#Search">Search the List Archives</a></li>
<li><a href="#Cert">Shorewall CA Certificate</a></li>
<li>The Mailing Lists</li>
<ul>
<li><a href="#Users">Shorewall Users</a></li>
<li><a href="#Announce">Shorewall Announcements</a></li>
<li><a href="#Devel">Shorewall Development</a></li>
<li><a href="#Newbies">Shorewall Newbies (Closed)</a></li>
</ul>
<li><a href="#Unsubscribe">Unsubscribing</a></li>
<li><a href="#Spamfilters">Spam Filters at Shorewall.net</a></li>
<li><a href="#Problems">Reporting Mailing List Problems</a></li>
<li><a href="#Acknowlegments">Acknowlegements</a><br>
</li>
</ul>
<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
<h2><a name="Moderated"></a>Mailing Lists are closed to Non-Member Posts<br>
</h2>
For several years, the Shorewall lists were moderated for non-member
posts. I've found that this is a pain for me (I have to wade through
the spam to find and approve legitimate posts).&nbsp; Additionally,
non-members seemed to almost universally ignore instructions to mention
that they were non-members in their post. Since the mailing lists are
set up so that replies go to the list rather than to the poster, this
means that most non-members who posted were not receiving their
replies. So effective 2005-03-05, all Shorewall lists are closed to
non-member posts.<br>
<br>
<div style="text-align: center;">- Tom Eastep<br>
</div>
<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
<h2><a name="Plain"></a>Please post in plain text</h2>
A growing number of MTAs serving list subscribers are rejecting all
HTML traffic. At least one MTA has gone so far as to blacklist
shorewall.net "for continuous abuse" because it has been my policy to
allow HTML in list posts!!<br>
<br>
I think that blocking all HTML is a Draconian way to control spam and
that the ultimate losers here are not the spammers but the list
subscribers whose MTAs are bouncing all shorewall.net mail. As one list
subscriber wrote to me privately "These e-mail admin's need to get a <i>(expletive
deleted)</i> life instead of trying to
rid the planet of HTML based e-mail". Nevertheless, to allow
subscribers to receive list posts as must as possible, I have now
configured the list server at shorewall.net to strip all HTML from
outgoing posts.
This means that HTML-only posts will be bounced by the list server.<br>
<p align="left"> <b>Note: </b>The list server limits posts to 120kb.<br>
</p>
<h2><a name="Hijacking"></a>Please don't hijack another poster's thread</h2>
On shorewall.net as elsewhere, it is considered very bad netiquette to
hijack another poster's thread by simply replying to a list post and
changing the subject to a different one. Please start a new thread when
you wish to introduce a new topic for discussion.<br>
<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
<h2 align="left"><a name="Search"></a>Mailing Lists Archive Search&nbsp;</h2>
<a
href="http://sourceforge.net/search/index.php?type_of_search=mlists&amp;group_id=22587">http://sourceforge.net/search/index.php?type_of_search=mlists&amp;group_id=22587</a><br>
<!-- Search Google -->
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<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
<h2 align="left"><a name="Cert"></a>Shorewall CA Certificate</h2>
If you want to trust X.509 certificates issued by Shoreline Firewall
(such as the one used on my web site), you may <a
href="Shorewall_CA_html.html">download and install my CA certificate</a>
in your browser. If you don't wish to trust my certificates then you
can either use unencrypted access when subscribing to Shorewall mailing
lists or you can use secure access (SSL) and
accept the server's certificate when prompted by your browser.<br>
<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
<h2 align="left"><a name="Users"></a>Shorewall Users Mailing List</h2>
<p align="left">The Shorewall Users Mailing list provides a way for
users to get answers to questions and to report problems. Information
of general interest to the Shorewall user community is also posted to
this list.<br>
</p>
<p style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);" align="left"><big><b>Problem reports
that do not include the information requested in the <a
href="http://shorewall.net/support.htm">problem
reporting guidelines</a> will go unanswered (at least by the Shorewall
author).<br>
</b></big></p>
<p align="left">To subscribe: <a
href="https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/shorewall-users"
target="_top">https//lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/shorewall-users</a></p>
<p align="left"> To post to the list, post to <a
href="mailto:shorewall-users@lists.sourceforge.net">shorewall-users@lists.sourceforge.net</a>.
<span style="font-weight: bold;">IMPORTANT: </span>If you are not
subscribed to the list, please say so -- otherwise, you will not be
included in any replies.<br>
</p>
<p align="left">The list archives are at <a
href="http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=2270">http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=2270</a>.</p>
<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
<h2 align="left"><a name="Announce"></a>Shorewall Announce Mailing List</h2>
<p align="left">This list is for announcements of general interest to
the Shorewall community. <big><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><span
style="font-weight: bold;">DO NOT USE THIS LIST FOR REPORTING PROBLEMS
OR ASKING FOR HELP.</span></span></big><br>
</p>
<p align="left">To subscribe: <a
href="https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/shorewall-announce"
target="_top">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/shorewall-announce</a>.
</p>
<ul>
</ul>
The list archives are at <a
href="http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=45422">http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=45422</a>.
<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
<h2 align="left"><a name="Devel"></a>Shorewall Development Mailing List</h2>
<p align="left">The Shorewall Development Mailing list provides a forum
for the exchange of ideas about the future of Shorewall and
for coordinating ongoing Shorewall Development. <big><span
style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><span style="font-weight: bold;">ONLY
USE THIS LIST FOR REPORTING PROBLEMS WITH DEVELOPMENT RELEASES --
REGULAR RELEASE SUPPORT REQUESTS SHOULD BE POSTED TO THE <a
href="#Users">USER'S LIST</a>.</span></span></big></p>
<p align="left">To subscribe to the mailing list: <a
href="http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/shorewall-devel"
target="_top">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/shorewall-devel</a><a
href="https://lists.shorewall.net/mailman/listinfo/shorewall-devel"
target="_top">.</a></p>
<ul>
</ul>
<p align="left"> To post to the list, post to <a
href="mailto:shorewall-devel@lists.sourceforge.net">shorewall-devel@lists.sourceforge.net</a>.&nbsp;</p>
<p align="left">The list archives are at <a
href="http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=44517">http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=44517</a>.<br>
</p>
<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
<h2 align="left"><a name="Newbies"></a>Shorewall Newbies Mailing List
(Closed)<br>
</h2>
This list previously provided a place where people who are new to
Shorewall could
get questions answered and could receive help with problems. It proved
to be less that a success and has been discontinued.<br>
<p align="left">The list archives are at <a
href="http://lists.shorewall.net/pipermail/shorewall-newbies/index.html">http://lists.shorewall.net/pipermail/shorewall-newbies</a>.</p>
<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
<h2 align="left"><a name="Unsubscribe"></a>How to Unsubscribe from one
of the Mailing Lists</h2>
<p align="left">There seems to be near-universal confusion about
unsubscribing from Mailman-managed lists although Mailman 2.1 has
attempted to make this less confusing. To unsubscribe:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p align="left">Follow the same link above that you used to
subscribe to the list.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p align="left">Down at the bottom of that page is the following
text: " To <b>unsubscribe</b> from <i>&lt;list name&gt;</i>,
get a password reminder, or change your subscription options
enter your subscription email address:". Enter your email address in
the box and click on the "<b>Unsubscribe</b> or edit
options" button.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p align="left">There will now be a box where you can enter your
password and click on "Unsubscribe"; if you have forgotten your
password, there is another button that will cause your password
to be emailed to you.</p>
</li>
</ul>
<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
<h2><a name="Spamfilters"></a>A Word about the SPAM Filters at
Shorewall.net&nbsp;<a href="http://osirusoft.com/"> </a></h2>
<p>Please note that the mail server at shorewall.net checks
incoming mail:<br>
</p>
<ol>
<li>against <a href="http://spamassassin.org">Spamassassin</a>
(including <a href="http://razor.sourceforge.net/">Vipul's Razor</a>).<br>
</li>
<li>to ensure that the sender address is
fully qualified.</li>
<li>to verify that the sender's domain has an A or MX record in DNS.</li>
<li>to ensure that the host name in the HELO/EHLO command is a valid
fully-qualified DNS name.</li>
<li>to ensure that the sending host has a PTR DNS record (reverse DNS
lookup must not fail).<br>
</li>
</ol>
<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
<h2><a name="Problems"></a>If you experience problems with any of these
lists,
please let <a href="mailto:postmaster@shorewall.net">me</a>
know
</h2>
<h2 align="left">Not able to Post Mail to shorewall.net?</h2>
<p align="left">You can report such problems by sending mail to
tmeastep at
hotmail dot com.</p>
<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
<h2><a name="Acknowlegments"></a>Acknowlegments</h2>
The Shorewall Mailing Lists use the following software:<br>
<ul>
<li><a target="_top" href="http://www.clamav.net">ClamAV<img
alt="ClamAV Logo" src="images/clamav-logo.png"
style="border: 0px solid ; width: 125px; height: 37px;"></a> <br>
</li>
<li><a target="_top"
href="http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman.html">GNU
Mailman</a><a href="http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman.html"><img
style="border: 0px solid ; width: 110px; height: 35px;"
alt="Mailman Logo" src="images/logo-sm.jpg"></a><a target="_top"
href="http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman.html"><br>
</a></li>
<li><a target="_top" href="http://razor.sourceforge.net/">Vipul's
Razor</a><a target="_top" href="http://razor.sourceforge.net/"><img
style="border: 0px solid ; width: 183px; height: 40px;"
alt="Razor Logo" src="images/razor.gif"></a><a
href="http://razor.sourceforge.net/"><br>
</a></li>
<li><a target="_top" href="http://www.spamassassin.org">SpamAssassin</a><a
target="_top" href="http://www.spamassassin.org"><img
alt="SpamAssassin Logo" src="images/arrowlogo.png"
style="border: 0px solid ; width: 200px; height: 89px;"></a></li>
<li><a target="_top" href="http://www.postfix.org">Postfix</a><a
target="_top" href="http://www.postfix.org"><img
style="border: 0px solid ; width: 130px; height: 91px;"
alt="Postfix Logo" src="images/postfix-white.gif"></a></li>
<li><a target="_top" href="http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/">Amavisd-new</a><br>
</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 align="left">Frustrated by having to Rebuild Mailman to use it with
Postfix?</h2>
<p align="left"><a href="gnu_mailman.htm">Check out these instructions</a></p>
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