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<h1>Shorewall Mailing Lists</h1>
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<span style="font-weight: bold;">Tom Eastep</span><br>
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<br>
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Copyright © 2001-2005 Thomas M. Eastep<br>
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<br>
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<p>Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this
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document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version
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1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation;
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with no Invariant Sections, with no Front-Cover, and with no Back-Cover
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Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled “<span
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class="quote"><a href="GnuCopyright.htm" target="_self">GNU Free
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Documentation License</a></span>”.</p>
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<p class="pubdate">2005-06-14<br>
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</p>
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<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
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<h2>See the <a target="_top" href="http://shorewall.net/">Shorewall
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Website</a> for
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Shorewall information and documentation.</h2>
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<h2>Table of Contents</h2>
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<ul>
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<li><a href="#Moderated">Mailing list Moderation</a></li>
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<li>Guidelines<br>
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</li>
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<ul>
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<li><a href="#Plain">Please post in plain text</a></li>
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</ul>
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<ul>
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<li><a href="#Hijacking">Please don't hijack another poster's thread</a></li>
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</ul>
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<li><a href="#Search">Search the List Archives</a></li>
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<li><a href="#Cert">Shorewall CA Certificate</a></li>
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<li>The Mailing Lists</li>
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<ul>
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<li><a href="#Users">Shorewall Users</a></li>
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<li><a href="#Announce">Shorewall Announcements</a></li>
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<li><a href="#Devel">Shorewall Development</a></li>
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<li><a href="#Newbies">Shorewall Newbies (Closed)</a></li>
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</ul>
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<li><a href="#Unsubscribe">Unsubscribing</a></li>
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<li><a href="#Spamfilters">Spam Filters at Shorewall.net</a></li>
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<li><a href="#Problems">Reporting Mailing List Problems</a></li>
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<li><a href="#Acknowlegments">Acknowlegements</a><br>
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</li>
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</ul>
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<h2><a name="Moderated"></a>Mailing Lists are closed to Non-Member Posts<br>
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</h2>
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For several years, the Shorewall lists were moderated for non-member
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posts. I've found that this is a pain for me (I have to wade through
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the spam to find and approve legitimate posts). Additionally,
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non-members seemed to almost universally ignore instructions to mention
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that they were non-members in their post. Since the mailing lists are
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set up so that replies go to the list rather than to the poster, this
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means that most non-members who posted were not receiving their
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replies. So effective 2005-03-05, all Shorewall lists are closed to
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non-member posts.<br>
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<br>
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<div style="text-align: center;">- Tom Eastep<br>
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</div>
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<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
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<h2><a name="Plain"></a>Please post in plain text</h2>
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A growing number of MTAs serving list subscribers are rejecting all
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HTML traffic. At least one MTA has gone so far as to blacklist
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shorewall.net "for continuous abuse" because it has been my policy to
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allow HTML in list posts!!<br>
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<br>
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I think that blocking all HTML is a Draconian way to control spam and
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that the ultimate losers here are not the spammers but the list
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subscribers whose MTAs are bouncing all shorewall.net mail. As one list
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subscriber wrote to me privately "These e-mail admin's need to get a <i>(expletive
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deleted)</i> life instead of trying to
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rid the planet of HTML based e-mail". Nevertheless, to allow
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subscribers to receive list posts as must as possible, I have now
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configured the list server at shorewall.net to strip all HTML from
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outgoing posts.
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This means that HTML-only posts will be bounced by the list server.<br>
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<p align="left"> <b>Note: </b>The list server limits posts to 120kb.<br>
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</p>
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<h2><a name="Hijacking"></a>Please don't hijack another poster's thread</h2>
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On shorewall.net as elsewhere, it is considered very bad netiquette to
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hijack another poster's thread by simply replying to a list post and
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changing the subject to a different one. Please start a new thread when
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you wish to introduce a new topic for discussion.<br>
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<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
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<h2 align="left"><a name="Search"></a>Mailing Lists Archive Search</h2>
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<!-- Search Google -->
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<center>
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<form method="get" action="http://www.google.com/search" target="_top"><input
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name="ie" value="UTF-8" type="hidden"> <input name="oe" value="UTF-8"
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type="hidden"><input name="as_sitesearch" value="lists.shorewall.net"
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type="hidden">
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<table bgcolor="#ffffff">
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<tbody>
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<tr>
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<td><a href="http://www.google.com/"> <img
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src="http://www.google.com/logos/Logo_40wht.gif" alt="Google"
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align="middle" border="0"></a><input name="q" size="25" maxlength="255"
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value="" type="text"> <input name="btnG"
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value="List Archive Search by Google" type="submit"></td>
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</tr>
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</tbody>
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</table>
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</form>
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</center>
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<!-- Search Google -->
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<h2 align="left"><font color="#ff0000">Please do not try to download
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the entire
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HTML Archive -- it is 300MB (and growing daily) and my slow DSL line
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simply
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won't
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stand the traffic. If I catch you, you will be blacklisted.<br>
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</font></h2>
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<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
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<h2 align="left"><a name="Cert"></a>Shorewall CA Certificate</h2>
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If you want to trust X.509 certificates issued by Shoreline Firewall
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(such as the one used on my web site), you may <a
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href="Shorewall_CA_html.html">download and install my CA certificate</a>
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in your browser. If you don't wish to trust my certificates then you
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can either use unencrypted access when subscribing to Shorewall mailing
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lists or you can use secure access (SSL) and
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accept the server's certificate when prompted by your browser.<br>
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<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
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<h2 align="left"><a name="Users"></a>Shorewall Users Mailing List</h2>
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<p align="left">The Shorewall Users Mailing list provides a way for
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users to get answers to questions and to report problems. Information
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of general interest to the Shorewall user community is also posted to
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this list.<br>
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</p>
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<p style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);" align="left"><big><b>Problem reports
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that do not include the information requested in the <a
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href="http://shorewall.net/support.htm">problem
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reporting guidelines</a> will go unanswered (at least by the Shorewall
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author).<br>
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</b></big></p>
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<p align="left">To subscribe: <a
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href="https://lists.shorewall.net/mailman/listinfo/shorewall-users"
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target="_top">https//lists.shorewall.net/mailman/listinfo/shorewall-users</a></p>
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<p align="left"> To post to the list, post to <a
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href="mailto:shorewall-users@lists.shorewall.net">shorewall-users@lists.shorewall.net</a>.
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<span style="font-weight: bold;">IMPORTANT: </span>If you are not
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subscribed to the list, please say so -- otherwise, you will not be
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included in any replies.<br>
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</p>
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<p align="left">The list archives are at <a
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href="http://lists.shorewall.net/pipermail/shorewall-users/index.html">http://lists.shorewall.net/pipermail/shorewall-users</a>.</p>
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<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
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<h2 align="left"><a name="Announce"></a>Shorewall Announce Mailing List</h2>
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<p align="left">This list is for announcements of general interest to
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the Shorewall community. <big><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><span
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style="font-weight: bold;">DO NOT USE THIS LIST FOR REPORTING PROBLEMS
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OR ASKING FOR HELP.</span></span></big><br>
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</p>
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<p align="left">To subscribe: <a
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href="http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/shorewall-announce"
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target="_top">http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/shorewall-announce</a>.
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</p>
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<ul>
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</ul>
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The list archives are at <a
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href="http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=45422">http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=45422</a>.
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<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
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<h2 align="left"><a name="Devel"></a>Shorewall Development Mailing List</h2>
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<p align="left">The Shorewall Development Mailing list provides a forum
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for the exchange of ideas about the future of Shorewall and
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for coordinating ongoing Shorewall Development. <big><span
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style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><span style="font-weight: bold;">ONLY
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USE THIS LIST FOR REPORTING PROBLEMS WITH DEVELOPMENT RELEASES --
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REGULAR RELEASE SUPPORT REQUESTS SHOULD BE POSTED TO THE <a
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href="#Users">USER'S LIST</a>.</span></span></big></p>
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<p align="left">To subscribe to the mailing list: <a
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href="https://lists.shorewall.net/mailman/listinfo/shorewall-devel"
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target="_top">https//lists.shorewall.net/mailman/listinfo/shorewall-devel.</a></p>
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<ul>
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</ul>
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<p align="left"> To post to the list, post to <a
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href="mailto:shorewall-devel@lists.shorewall.net">shorewall-devel@lists.shorewall.net</a>. </p>
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<p align="left">The list archives are at <a
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href="http://lists.shorewall.net/pipermail/shorewall-devel">http://lists.shorewall.net/pipermail/shorewall-devel</a>.<br>
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</p>
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<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
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<h2 align="left"><a name="Newbies"></a>Shorewall Newbies Mailing List
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(Closed)<br>
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</h2>
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This list previously provided a place where people who are new to
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Shorewall could
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get questions answered and could receive help with problems. It proved
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to be less that a success and has been discontinued.<br>
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<p align="left">To unsubscribe: <a
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href="https://lists.shorewall.net/mailman/listinfo/shorewall-newbies"
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target="_top">https//lists.shorewall.net/mailman/listinfo/shorewall-newbies</a></p>
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<p align="left">The list archives are at <a
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href="http://lists.shorewall.net/pipermail/shorewall-newbies/index.html">http://lists.shorewall.net/pipermail/shorewall-newbies</a>.</p>
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<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
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<h2 align="left"><a name="Unsubscribe"></a>How to Unsubscribe from one
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of the Mailing Lists</h2>
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<p align="left">There seems to be near-universal confusion about
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unsubscribing from Mailman-managed lists although Mailman 2.1 has
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attempted to make this less confusing. To unsubscribe:</p>
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<ul>
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<li>
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<p align="left">Follow the same link above that you used to
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subscribe to the list.</p>
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</li>
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<li>
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<p align="left">Down at the bottom of that page is the following
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text: " To <b>unsubscribe</b> from <i><list name></i>,
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get a password reminder, or change your subscription options
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enter your subscription email address:". Enter your email address in
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the box and click on the "<b>Unsubscribe</b> or edit
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options" button.</p>
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</li>
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<li>
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<p align="left">There will now be a box where you can enter your
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password and click on "Unsubscribe"; if you have forgotten your
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password, there is another button that will cause your password
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to be emailed to you.</p>
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</li>
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</ul>
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<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
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<h2><a name="Spamfilters"></a>A Word about the SPAM Filters at
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Shorewall.net <a href="http://osirusoft.com/"> </a></h2>
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<p>Please note that the mail server at shorewall.net checks
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incoming mail:<br>
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</p>
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<ol>
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<li>against <a href="http://spamassassin.org">Spamassassin</a>
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(including <a href="http://razor.sourceforge.net/">Vipul's Razor</a>).<br>
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</li>
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<li>to ensure that the sender address is
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fully qualified.</li>
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<li>to verify that the sender's domain has an A or MX record in DNS.</li>
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<li>to ensure that the host name in the HELO/EHLO command is a valid
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fully-qualified DNS name.</li>
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<li>to ensure that the sending host has a PTR DNS record (reverse DNS
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lookup must not fail).<br>
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</li>
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</ol>
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<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
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<h2><a name="Problems"></a>If you experience problems with any of these
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lists,
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please let <a href="mailto:postmaster@shorewall.net">me</a>
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know
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</h2>
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<h2 align="left">Not able to Post Mail to shorewall.net?</h2>
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<p align="left">You can report such problems by sending mail to
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tmeastep at
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hotmail dot com.</p>
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<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
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<h2><a name="Acknowlegments"></a>Acknowlegments</h2>
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The Shorewall Mailing Lists use the following software:<br>
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<ul>
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<li><a target="_top" href="http://www.clamav.net">ClamAV<img
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alt="ClamAV Logo" src="images/clamav-logo.png"
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style="border: 0px solid ; width: 125px; height: 37px;"></a> <br>
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</li>
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<li><a target="_top"
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href="http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman.html">GNU
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Mailman</a><a href="http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman.html"><img
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style="border: 0px solid ; width: 110px; height: 35px;"
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alt="Mailman Logo" src="images/logo-sm.jpg"></a><a target="_top"
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href="http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman.html"><br>
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</a></li>
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<li><a target="_top" href="http://razor.sourceforge.net/">Vipul's
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Razor</a><a target="_top" href="http://razor.sourceforge.net/"><img
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style="border: 0px solid ; width: 183px; height: 40px;"
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alt="Razor Logo" src="images/razor.gif"></a><a
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href="http://razor.sourceforge.net/"><br>
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</a></li>
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<li><a target="_top" href="http://www.spamassassin.org">SpamAssassin</a><a
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target="_top" href="http://www.spamassassin.org"><img
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alt="SpamAssassin Logo" src="images/arrowlogo.png"
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style="border: 0px solid ; width: 200px; height: 89px;"></a></li>
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<li><a target="_top" href="http://www.postfix.org">Postfix</a><a
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target="_top" href="http://www.postfix.org"><img
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style="border: 0px solid ; width: 130px; height: 91px;"
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alt="Postfix Logo" src="images/postfix-white.gif"></a></li>
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<li><a target="_top" href="http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/">Amavisd-new</a><br>
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</li>
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</ul>
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<hr>
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<h2 align="left">Frustrated by having to Rebuild Mailman to use it with
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Postfix?</h2>
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<p align="left"><a href="gnu_mailman.htm">Check out these instructions</a></p>
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